Divine Principle & Jordan Petersen MD v1.1

A comparison between Divine Principle view and Doctor Petersens psychological view on the Bible story and mans life-conditions.

Jordan Petersen; Candian Prophessor in Psychology, is a modern Day media Prophet with 80 000+ youtube viewers/day (Dec 2018)

Jordan Petersen MD

Adam – Eve Story

Number one is, there was a point in time when human beings were naked, and they weren’t ashamed of it. Number two is, there is a point in time — which is now — when they are naked, and they are ashamed of it. The question is, well, what’s associated with nakedness and shame?

That’s often given a sexual connotation in classic interpretations of the Adam and Eve story — because of it’s association with nudity, I presume.

But I think it’s a lot more complicated than that.

Jordan Petersen MD

Part of clothing is protection, but a tremendous amount of it is merely stopping other people from evaluating you too harshly all the time; it just gets in the way.

Anyways, this story makes the case that, at some point, we weren’t like that. Animals aren’t like that, so it seems perfectly plausible that we weren’t like that.

But, at some point, that changed.

Jordan Petersen MD

Adam and Eve are tempted by the snake; they eat the fruit; they wake up; they realize they’re naked; they realize that they’re vulnerable; they realize the future; they realize they’re gonna die; they realize they’re gonna have to work; they realize the difficulty in conception, and the fall of humankind from unconscious paradise.

Ok. That makes sense. What about the knowledge of good and evil?

Jordan Petersen MD

Human beings wake up (eyes are opened), and they think, we’re vulnerable — permanently. It’s never going away. It’s the recognition of that eternal vulnerability.

Jordan Petersen MD

The Mesopotamians believed that human beings were made out of the blood of Kingu, who was the worst monster that Tiamat, the Goddess of chaos, could imagine and then produce.

So their idea was that there as something deeply, deeply, deeply, demonically flawed about humanity.

That’s their conception, and it’s out of that same milieu that these stories emerge.

Jordan Petersen MD

The snake isn’t just the snake in the garden, and the snake isn’t just the possible snake, and the snake isn’t just the snake that’s your enemy.

The snake is your friend, because your friend can betray you. And then it’s even worse than that, because you can betray you. So even if you get rid of all the outside snakes, you’ve got an inside snake, and God only knows what it’s up to.

Source: Biblical Series IV: Adam and Eve

Divine Principle

God created human beings with two components: the spirit self and the physical self.

The human Fall likewise took place in two dimensions: the spiritual and the physical.

The fall which took place through the sexual relationship between the angel and Eve was the spiritual fall, while the fall which occurred through the sexual relationship between Eve and Adam was the physical fall.

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Jesus came as the Messiah for nothing less than the complete salvation of humanity;

God’s Will was to establish the family foundation for the Messiah through the dispensation based on Cain and Abel.

When Cain killed Abel and this Will was not fulfilled,

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God made another attempt to fulfill it through Noah’s family. When Noah’s family also failed to fulfill the Will, God chose Abraham as yet another replacement and worked through him.

We also see this with respect to the missions of individuals: God tried to remedy the failure to fulfill His Will through Abel by choosing Seth as his replacement.(Gen. 4:25)

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God tried to fulfill His Will left unaccomplished by Moses by choosing Joshua in his stead. (Josh. 1:5)

When God’s Will for Judas Iscariot was nullified by his betrayal of Jesus, God made a second attempt to fulfill this Will by electing Matthias in his place.(Acts 1:24-26)

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God gave Isaac twin sons, Esau and Jacob, with the intention of having them stand in the positions of Cain and Abel.

They were to make the conditions of indemnity necessary for accomplishing His Will to recover the birthright of the elder brother, which was lost when Cain killed Abel in Adam’s family.

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God intended to realize this Will by having Jacob (in the position of Abel) win over his elder brother Esau (in the position of Cain). Since Esau was in the position of Cain, he was “hated” by God. Since Jacob was in the position of Abel, he could receive God’s love.

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When Adam’s family was in the midway position, God instructed the children, Cain and Abel, to offer sacrifices that they might come into a position where God could work His providence through them. Yet because Cain killed Abel, the condition was made which allowed Satan to claim them instead.

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God sent Jesus to fallen people that they might stand on God’s side through the condition of believing in him.

Unfortunately, when he came, many rejected him and remained on Satan’s side.

This is the reason Jesus is both the Savior and the Lord of judgment.

SunMyungMoon 1968;

When Cain and Abel both made an offering, it seems that God’s position of receiving the offering of Abel was different from His position of rejecting the offering of Cain.

However, you should know there was no difference in God’s position dealing with them. God would have surely accepted Cain’s offering if there was even a trace of willingness in Cain’s heart to go through Abel who represented God.

SunMyungMoon 1968;

Although there may have been a difference as to when He would accept it, God tried to deal with them fairly.

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If Cain did not really care about the offering that he prepared for God, then it would not have mattered to him so much whether or not God received the offering of Abel.

However, what made him furious and resentful was the thought that his devotion was inferior to that of Abel.

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When you look at the offering centering on Abel, he prepared it with the same degree of devotion as Cain.

Only because Abel was on the side of God from the beginning, God accepted it.

For this reason, Abel should have been grateful and humble even if God accepted only his offering. Then would Cain have tried to kill him? (No)

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God looks for the Abel — the one who can take God’s position, share His responsibilities, and serve.

God searches through the lineage for that serving person who will follow God’s command no matter what. Someone who will believe in the unbelievable.

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Cain and Abel - in church life

In the Old Testament Age, God served man in the position of servant. Jesus did not live on earth as an only Son.

He was in the position of the Son of God in the internal value, still He pursued the mission of the servant in the practical life.

Jesus was the servant and He was in the position of John the Baptist when he transferred the Word to the people. John the Baptist was in the position of the archangel.

Then Jesus served as the archangel in reality for three years, even if he had the internal content of the Messiah sent by God.

Afterward, he should have been able to take the people to the position of the sons and daughters of God.

Jesus could stand for the first time in the position of the Messiah.

The same things applies in the case of the church leader. He must take the role of the archangel for some period necessary, maybe three years or seven years.

During that period he has to gain 12 (spiritual) children who are more dutiful than himself.

Then, the question occurs whether he is to be in the position of the Son of God.

In other words, unless you accomplish the mission of the archangel in the position of servant in real life and in the position of parent having the vertical connection with God in the spiritual life, you cannot go back to your original position.

At home also, the person who is responsible for the matter is Abel. Then you must be humble to Abel and serve gladly and comfort him when someone also is in the position.

You cannot consider yourself always superior to others. According to the respective job, the central figure must suffer in the position of Abel.

The peace exists there. However, if someone thinks he should always be Abel, the whole church must suffer and the family as well.

Therefore, you can learn clearly what is your position if you understand the above.

Then you can comprehend automatically the position of others also.

more… https://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Books/FaL/Fal-1-2.htm

Jordan Peterson (born June 12, 1962) a Canadian clinical psychologist and a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto.

His main areas of study are in abnormal, social, and personality psychology, with a particular interest in the psychology of religious and ideological belief, and the assessment and improvement of personality and performance.

Biblical Series V: Cain and Abel The Hostile Brothers by Dr. Jordan Peterson

Ok, so the first thing is that Adam and Eve are not the first two human beings. Cain and Abel are the first two human beings. Adam and Eve were made by God, and they were born in paradise. It’s like, what kind of human beings are those?

You don’t know any human beings like that. Human beings aren’t born in paradise and made by God. Human beings are born of other human beings.

That’s the first thing. It’s post-fall. We’re out in history, now. We’re not in some archetypal beyond — although we are still, to some degree. Not to the degree that was the case with the story of Adam and Eve.

We’ve already been thrown out of the garden; we’re already self-conscious; we’re already awake; we’re already covered; we’re already working.

We’re full-fledged human beings. So you have the first two human beings: Cain and Abel; prototypical human beings.

What’s cool is that humanity enters history at the end of the story of Adam and Eve, and then the archetypal patterns for human behaviour are instantaneously presented.

(Comment: pattern of fallen human behavoiur)

It’s absolutely mind boggling, and it’s not a very nice story. They’re hostile brothers. They’ve got their hands around each other’s throats, so to speak, or at least that’s the case in one direction. It’s a story of the first two human beings engaged in a fratricidal struggle, that ends in the death of the best one of them. That’s the story of human beings in history. If that doesn’t give you nightmares, you didn’t understand the damn story.

“And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.” There’s the first human being: Cain. I told you that the Mesopotamians thought that mankind was made out of the blood of the worst demon that the great goddess of chaos could imagine.

Well, the first human being is a murderer, and not only a murderer, but a murderer of his own brother. And so, you know, the Old Testament, that’s a hell of a harsh book. And you might think, well, maybe that’s a little bit too much to bear. And then you might think, yea, and maybe it’s true, too. So that’s something to think about.

There you see a very old representation. There’s Abel. He’s got his sheep up on the altar.

Cain is bringing a sheaf of wheat. I don’t know exactly what’s happening here. Blood, or it’s a ray, perhaps. It’s something like that. The overall impression of the image is that something transcendent is communicating with this sacrifice.

You think, oh, how primitive. How primitive, that these people were sacrificing to their God. It’s like, those people weren’t stupid, and this is not primitive. Whatever it is, it’s not primitive. It’s sophisticated beyond belief.

The idea, as I already pointed out, is that you could sacrifice something of value, and that that would have transcendent utility. That is by no means an unsophisticated idea. In fact, it might be the greatest idea that human beings ever came up with.

When you’re having an argument with someone, especially someone that you love, it’s a good time to just watch the pictures that flash in the back of your mind.

That’s part of, let’s say, coming into contact with what Carl Jung called the shadow. The shadow is the manifestation of Cain. That’s a perfectly good way of thinking about it. One of the things that Jung said about the shadow — because Jung was not someone that you mess around with lightly.

He said the human shadow has roots that reach all the way to hell. Jung meant that.

That’s no metaphor for him. He might not have meant it in the same way that a fundamentalist Christian from the Southern U.S. might mean it, but I would say that Jung meant it in a way that’s far more terrifying, and also far more true. “And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.”

So there’s Abel, burning his offering away, there. He’s in this sort of relationship with…let’s call them the archetypal figure of culture. The archetypal Father. It’s something he respects. That’s the thing—the posture’s an indication of respect.

And then there’s Cain, in the background. His face is in shadow. He’s jealous of what’s happening. He’s going through the motions, perhaps, and maybe God just doesn’t like him. We don’t know. But he’s going through the motions. He’s not very happy about it. That’s actually a phrase that you could carve into many people’s tombstones as an epitaph for their life: went through the motions, but wasn’t very happy about it.

This is really an interesting one, I think. I don’t know what God’s doing here, exactly. He’s helping ignite the sacrificial flame. That’s kind of an interesting idea, I think, because…Let’s say you have an impulse to make a sacrifice.

You think, well, I should change this about my life. Well, where does that come from, that impulse? It just manifests itself out of nothing, or you came up with it. Well, you might want to stop thinking so surely that you come up with your own thoughts.

You don’t come up with your damn dreams, do you? They just happen. God only knows where they come from. They come from your brain—oh, boy; that’s a sophisticated answer. They come from your unconscious. Well, that’s not much better. At least it’s somewhat better.

Those amazing dramas take place in the theater of your imagination at night. You don’t even understand what they are, and yet they occur night after night.

Dreams can contain wisdom that it just…Well, it just staggers the person who has the dream once they get the key to the dream, and once they remember it. It’s like, oh, look, you just revealed a bunch of wisdom to yourself that you didn’t know. Where did that come from? You don’t know. How in the world can you dream up things that you don’t know? That’s a tough one.

The idea that there’s something that’s not you…Jung would call it the Self, which he thought of as the totality of your being across time and space.

It’s something like that, and that, you know, each second that you exist is a slice of the Self manifesting itself across time and space.

He thought of the Self as partly the voice of conscious, whatever that is, that helps guide you when you have to make a difficult decision.

A difficult decision might be, well, what do I need to sacrifice? How do I need to discipline myself? What do I need to forego?

What thing could I let go of that’s impeding my progress, that, if I let go of, would make my life better, and my family’s life better, and my culture’s life better, and my being better? That would give you something to do for the day, wouldn’t it? And to justify your miserable life.

You need that. That’s the whole point of the first story of Adam and Eve. What do you have? A miserable life. Ok. What am I going to do about that? Well, if you just have a miserable life, you’re just going to suffer stupidly and get bitter about it. That’s what happens to Cain.

It’s like, well, how about not doing that? That just seems to take a bad deal and make it worse. How about making a sacrifice, and seeing if you can please God and put being on track?

God, that would be something to do. What could be better than that? What could possibly be better than that? That’s why it’s archetypal, man, because nothing’s better than that. That’s where it tops out.

You can do that. You can do that every day. You have to do it in a little way, because what good are you? You’re not going to go and bring this socialist utopia into being in one fell swoop.

You might also think that one of the things Cain might figure out there — there are a couple of things that aren’t just going right for him

Downwind of the fire? Not the right place to blow from. And the fact that he’s enveloped in haze and smoke, and breathing it in, and the fire isn’t burning, might be an indication that he’s doing something wrong, or he would be wiping his eyes and saying, what kinda stupid bloody universe would produce smoke like this?

It’s like, yes, well, that’s a more likely outcome.

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Biblical Series V: Cain and Abel: The Hostile Brothers

Comment: Dreams can be the healthy interaction from conscous/uncounscous during sleep + interactions from Spirits in Spirit world

Divine Principle: Man consists of Spirit Mind + Spirit Body Physical Mind + Physical Body 5 Physical sences + 5 Spiritual sences

All 4 body-minds interact during earthly life.

Bad – Good Spirit World

Man Sinning Fallen Nature Original Nature

Principle view

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2 Bodies in One !

Yang From Spirit 1 1 Body/World 3 From Natural World Yang 2 2 Yin From Physical Body

Yin • You should know that you are like two people in one.

Yang From Spirit Body/World From Natural World Yang Yin From Physical Body

Yin • You should know that you are like two people in one.

• Your inner man is like a mirror, clean and bright.

Yang From Spirit Body/World From Natural World Yang Yin From Physical Body

Yin • You should know that you are like two people in one.

• Your inner man is like a mirror, clean and bright.

• When the inner and external men are perfectly aligned you feel joy and power. This is happening every day within you.

Yang From Spirit Body/World From Natural World Yang Yin From Physical Body Yang = Yin = is provided Yin requires effort

• You should know that you are like two people in one.

• Your inner man is like a mirror, clean and bright.

• When the inner and external men are perfectly aligned you feel joy and power. This is happening every day within you.

Reincarnation untrue - explained as Returning Spirits!

After all, the inhabitants of the spirit world are the souls (Spirit Self) of people who formerly lived on earth.

From this perspective, the spirit world is not so different from the physical world.

/SMM 2 March 1986

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